Sarah: However, the courts have said that there are times when the police do have a special relationship. Barry Friedman: Now you come to the fundamental problem. That's just me. The odd thing is, they keep doubling down on that by creating more mechanisms on the back end to try to hold people responsible, and don't notice that the whole problem is the vacuum, as you described it, on the front end. What you get is, you might get a drone statute in one state, and you'll get a statute about chokeholds in another state, and you'll get a statute about license plate readers in another state but it's all totally pinprick. A two-time Peabody Award-winner, Radiolab is an investigation told through sounds and stories, and centered around one big idea. Last spring, student performers had their hopes of stardom dashed as schools abruptly closed at the outset of the COVID-19 pandemic. The transit cop that walk the beat down there didn't have no duty to protect the consumers? Yes if object_id has been set. While most of us hear a wall of white noise, squeaks, and squawks....David Rothenberg hears a symphony. What does that mean?" The reason it's hard to hold people responsible today is because we're missing clear rules on the front to tell them what we expect them to do. Parker: In the midst of all this, at some point a police officer shows up in Joe's room, introduces himself. Jad: Wait, so the police on the train knew-. Parker: Yes, I can't hear it now. I’m fanatical about essential oils, Lizzo (yes still), clean food, Radiolab, and Phoebe Judge. We don't use the ordinary ways that we do everything else in government with regard to the police. More information about Sloan at www.sloan.org. That was just something that I was really trying to figure out for myself. She has the ability to ask the police to enforce the order, but the police have discretion under our reading of the statute. They didn't have to do a damn thing. He told her that he heard one of the officers on the train say that he was "likely". Sarah: Very quickly in this case, the justices started asking these questions that were--. B.A. Jad: Yes. What bothers me about the moment we're in, there many bosses of some things about the moment we're in, but people are walking around very much with a bad apples view of the problem, when the truth of the matter is that the orchard just isn't regulated. That's cool. That's why it's hard to hold people accountable and why people get frustrated. Sarah: In upstate New York. It brings me back to Parker's original question, which is, if protecting people on the streets is so damn hard to make legally binding because it's not their job, then what is their job? Pain you can't even imagine. Once he walked in, my eyes was fixed on him, because he didn't look right. Sarah: There's questions about property and if the restraining order is property. Alexandra: Now you're seeing why this test is so hard to meet. Kris: I'm reading this and I'm thinking, I need to get involved. That felt pretty clear to me. Barry: No. Then you need an addition. Accuracy and availability may vary. Jad: It's ethics guidelines, it is mottos, like, protect and serve. Sarah: It was a domestic violence case from Castle Rock, Colorado. B.A. B.A. Jad: Now, this is Jad in the present. The show is known for its deep-dive journalism and innovative sound design. Parker: -that one of the police officers who was behind that little door, rushes over, grabs the guy. We reached out to the Castle Rock police department to interview them about Jessica Gonzales's case, but they declined. Then that's it? ", B.A. Jad: Now, I have to confess. Like someone doused my head in gasoline and lit it on fire. ", B.A. B.A. This guy went over to the door where the officers and the driver were. B.A. He had lymphoma, and the disease plus his drugs weakened his immune system, making him particularly susceptible to the virus. She didn't get to see her children until they were laid out for the funeral. No, but that's clearly their job. But okay, with that out of the way, we'll start things off with--. I said to myself, "We got to help him." Radio lab was one of the first podcasts I listened to and I binged everything available before I moved on. Joe: Scared to death like he was going to shit his pants. The argument that her lawyers were making is that the police by not enacting this restraining order, by not seeking to arrest this man and protect Jessica and her children, by failing to do those things, they violated Jessica's 14th amendment right. Sarah: Yes. ", B.A. Jeremiah: That gets into the code of ethics for policing, or mottos. I don't know. Joe: You don't have time to think about it. ‎Radiolab is one of the most beloved podcasts and public radio shows in the world. From-, Jad Abumrad: Hey, I'm Jad. Sarah: When Jessica arrived at the police station, she was taken into an interrogation room. But along come the courts and say, "No, actually not.". I create online courses to help you reclaim your health. Sarah: Which got kicked up to the 10th Circuit Court. B.A. Joe: I turned around quickly, and I'm like, "Can I help you? Sarah: Real quick, tort law is the universe of law that governs what happens when one person hurts another person. I see that he needed help. B.A. Jessica Lenahan: The police basically ignored the restraining order. Radiolab. and just blew it open. Sarah: The police come outside, open fire on Simon. Join us as we investigate why he changed his mind, how that made the country change its mind, and whether it’s now time to change our minds again.This episode was reported by Latif Nasser and was produced by Sarah Qari.Special thanks to Jenny Lawton, Soren Shade, Kelsey Padgett, Mahyad Tousi and Soroush Vosughi.Support Radiolab by becoming a member today at Radiolab.org/donate. #00:46:30.24# Enhancing public understanding of science and technology in the modern world. I lOve Radio lab. Joe: If I had time before work, I was doing this before work. For now, here's producer Sarah Qari. She's a cop. Voice clip: To protect and serve the people. I called this guy, John Goldberg. She had three little girls. B.A. B.A. Sarah: I guess in that void, it seems like what happens is it leaves the courts to debate over what those rules are and how to draw lines, I guess? Parker: The man told Joe, "Listen, I was part of the grand jury and I've got to tell you something. I say this fully aware that if I were in a situation like that, I don't know if I would jump in. Once the shooting stops, the police approached Simon's truck and opened the door. Used when defining additional context about the nature of the request. B.A. B.A. Fuck, I forgot about that. Radiolab is one of the most beloved podcasts and public radio shows in the world. Jad: That's coming up right after the break. Parker: One of the officers shouts back. Produced by Matt Kielty and Molly Webster. Kris: When she lost, it was as if her children had been murdered again. What does that mean?" I’m an identical twin. We're the police.". Here are a couple papers to get you started:The “U.K. B.A. Sarah: She asked around, ended up finding the number of the woman who is at the center of the case. B.A. She turned white. He was just crying for his wife, his kids, and whatever. The authoritative record of New York Public Radio’s programming is the audio record. They don't talk, they scream. Parker: I mean, his idea that we either get discretion, meaning police make all their own subjective decisions, and how to enforce the law. Joe: Next thing I know, two police officers get on the subway. Special thanks to Ravindra Gupta, Jonathan Li.Support Radiolab by becoming a member today at Radiolab.org/donate. Alfred: Yes? Newscaster: He still doesn't believe he's a hero. I just did what I thought that was right at the time. Want to learn more about some of the covid case studies? It's your problem. Alexandra: You need knowledge on the part of the officers that not acting could lead to harm. It's really paralyzing. Parker: -named Joe Lozito. Sarah: Right, and you were wondering if there is some middle path to the police having to protect us. If you think back to Joe Lozito, the guy got stabbed in the subway. Radiolab is co-hosted by Lulu Miller and Latif Nasser. A few weeks after she’d taken this restraining order-. Or we get a world in which they have an obligation to enforce every law across the board, but you get a police state. While the tussle was going on, the police that was in the motorman's cabin, he opened the door and looked out, and then they went back in and--. My main area of interest and expertise is tort law. Not even in, I don't know, state constitutions or something? How did that go? Sarah: Right. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. It's a strange world, man. B.A. Sarah: That's so strange. Sarah: The woman's name is Jessica Lenahan. Luke: Trying to protect women from abusers. Parker: According to Joe, it's then-. Sarah: I don't know. Alexandra Lahav: Well, most states have a rule that's similar to the one that you're seeing in New York. Sarah: The classic example is, if you're walking down the street, and-. Love it or hate it, the freedom to say obnoxious and subversive things is the quintessence of what makes America America. When I first encountered this term "special relationship" I was like, "What the heck? Like I said, I'm just grateful for the police and EMTs were down there to save me or else, like I said, I wouldn't be here right now. I want no part of this, we're going to the next car." Sarah: The way the courts look at these four criteria is, all four of them have to be checked off. You would have essentially a police state. Took a step back, just like the cops did. Parker: Got down the platform, waited a minute. ... "There's two parts to it, and one part is the gas pedal — or accelerator — which means the other part has to be the brake. There's this one part of the story I haven't told you yet that gives me a little hope. She knew immediately Simon had taken them. Parker: Yes, that's what you think, that's what I thought. You've puzzled through it, Sarah, in a very logical way and everywhere you turn looking for logic, you find a twist. I go, "What?" He decides to represent himself. Archival clip Supreme Court: To my knowledge, we've never held that the police have an actionable obligation to enforce them. My pleasure. Joe: Says, "You can get up now, we got him.". Meaning, our Constitution is keep your laws off my body. There was a citywide manhunt for him. I got to process this. Archival clip Supreme Court: What is the property your client has been deprived of? B.A. Alfred: After Joe Lozito took him down and they were on the ground, the police came up the motorman car and grab him. Denver Ceremony station recordings were created by media maker Nathaniel Kramer, with help from Daniel Cooper. B.A. John: They've acted differently, exactly. Parker: When Joe heard this, he thought back to this moment when he was in the hospital recovering, when his sister came by. Sarah: John says you'll also see this special relationship status in transit industries. This is something that came up in Sarah Qari's conversation with Barry Friedman, that the actual mandates for what police are supposed to be doing are internal to the police departments themselves. SPORTS TALK THAT MATTERS ... From trending chart-toppers to all-time favorites follow classic shows like RadioLab Stuff You Should Know and TED Radio Hour and top-rated hits like The Joe Rogan Experience NPR's Up First NYT's The Daily Wow in the World and more. Parker: They understand. Parker: He's got a black eye, gnarly scars all over his head. Parker: Because it was right then Joe noticed that there was this man, in mid-20s, six feet tall-. John: You see somebody in need of rescue, and you could easily and safely rescue them, but you don't. Parker: The judge threw the case out citing that the police has no special duty to protect him. Therefore, a special duty did not exist.". Jad: In talking to them about where that idea actually comes from-. That just seems bananas to me. We have environmental protection statutes, and we have workplace safety statutes but we don't have policing statutes. Again, if you think about it, the Constitution is kind of a weird way to run anything in government. Sarah: She told me that in a lot of different places around the US, it comes down to the very same criteria that Joe Lozito was being held to. No woman deserves this. We don't pass statutes. B.A. After the news media moves on, after the two police officers on the train are praised by the mayor and the chief of police. It's city charters that created police forces in those cities, charters that say things like, "Protect the peace, maintain order, enforce the law." He's trained his ear to listen for the music of animals, and he's always looking for chances to join in, with everything from lonely birds to giant whales to swarming cicadas.In this podcast, David explains his urge to connect and sing along, and helps break down the mysterious life cycle and mating rituals of the periodical cicadas into something we can all relate to.Support Radiolab by becoming a member today at Radiolab.org/donate. Parker: He keeps knocking on this door. We don't pass regulations. It's an undertaking that involves some of the most elaborate security and cryptography ever done (so we've been told). You're a normal guy. B.A. Kris: She files a petition in the federal district court. John: A classic example would be, if you are a hotel and you invite people to come and stay in your hotel, as all hotels do, you need working locks on the door to make sure nobody breaks in, in the middle of the night. Parker: Joe is basically at the very front of the train. B.A. Then the third time, Joe grabs this guy's wrist, slams into the ground. In one hour, we’re going to mess it all up. The two dissenting judges were John Paul Stevens and Ruth Bader Ginsburg. He goes, "The whole group of us we all looked at each other like, "Did he actually just admit to not coming out to do his job and leave the subway full of people with a spree killer?"" Parker: Yes. Slashes again, slices his arm. The police are heroes. Alfred: Damn. Kris: She was informed. I wrote this how-to podcast book. Radiolab is one of the most beloved podcasts and public radio shows in the world. Sarah: -the kids are with their dad. Kris: Why would anybody do that? MUSIC OUT . That took this question that I had of, "What do the police do?" Kris: At that point they saw three dead little girls. Jad: Between prisoner, parents and minor children. Exactly. Special thanks to:Lynn Levy, who went on to host the space-a-licious series, The Habitat, and edit (among other things) the powerful and beautiful new podcast Resistance.Merav Opher, an astronomy professor at BU, who now directs the SHIELD DRIVE Science Center which is studying the data collected by the Voyagers at the edge of the heavens, or--err, the “heliosphere” as the scientists call it.Edward Dolnick, The Clockwork Universe: Isaac Newton, the Royal Society, and the Birth of the Modern WorldAnn Druyan, one of the creators of the 1977 Golden Album traveling on the Voyager probe, has recently released a new series on National Geographic,  “Cosmos: Possible Worlds”A.J. Dungo, who submitted a postcard while surfing, is author of the mesmerizing graphic novel, In Waves, a memoir about surfing and grief.Support Radiolab by becoming a member today at Radiolab.org/donate. We don't then because we have those statutes do sufficient auditing to make sure that they're being followed. If I had time after work, I was doing this after work. Parker: -he lunged at this guy's legs. Alexandra: They believe, justifiably, that the police will protect them. B.A. After he cuff him up now, the train line come to a stop. His head was covered in blood. Sarah: In this restraining order, there was this condition--. Voice clip: If you've ever been on the internet, I mean, you hear right now. A few more people got in. B.A. Sometimes the pain overwhelms me, and I have to step away from my own life just to cope. I can't see how they could say that it wasn't their job to protect the citizens. Parker: Got in the very first car, took a seat. Digital can be defined as any data represented with a series of digits, and Media refers to a method of broadcasting or communicating information. I’ve been to a live show. Sarah: In the 7-2 decision, the Supreme Court decided that the Castle Rock police had no duty to enforce the restraining order against Jessica's ex-husband. Parker: : We reached out to the police officers who were on the train through their precinct but never heard back. Radiolab is supported in part by the Alfred P Sloan Foundation. Even weirder, you can trace it back to one seemingly ordinary 8-month period in Holmes’s life when he seems to have done a logical U-turn on what should be say-able. I asked if anybody have a tissue or a napkin, but before I got a tissue and a napkin, I was applying pressure to his neck and then somebody came with a piece of napkin and I use the napkin to apply the pressure. Jad: Just spending a lot of her time thinking. Jad: Do you have a sense of where you want to start? Problem is he couldn't get a lawyer to actually take his case to trial. Jeremiah Johnson: Sworn police officer in the state of Connecticut. They left a spree killer, a known spree killer, a spree killing fugitive on a subway with probably 20, 25 people. 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